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Report of the Comenius 1 History Project Meeting

Seville, 21-26 October 2003


Wednesday 22 October

Cristina Fuga was elected as the new coordinator.

Then the various partners reported on achievements and problems that each experienced over last year.

Torre del Oro, SevilleRomania - The profile of project was raised by last year's visit. They spend one afternoon a week on the project, but have had problems with access to computers. There is only one computer lab and one machine with internet connection. They are about to finalise a contract which gives broadband internet access throughout the school.

Spain - Here there was very successful work using the universal suffrage material, both the chronology and the factors element. The class was able to use these for an effective comparative study of the rise of universal suffrage and produced a very interesting chart showing the different rates of development. There was also a discussion paper that was produced as a result of this. It contained some very sophisticated analysis.

Italy - There are now two schools involved in the project - Cattaneo and the Art School. In the Art School there is little access or use of Information Technology and not many students take languages in spite of the legal requirement. They were hoping to introduce English and Spanish language teaching as well as Information Technology. This will help them get involved in the project, but the project and language options will be voluntary. They were hoping to use the project as a means of getting the students interested in learning languages.

Scotland - There have been some good successes this year with the project. First of all, for the first time, it has been possible to link up studying history with using Information Technology. Groups of students have been working on the internet and researching various topics. These are now stored in the website and were demonstrated to the partners. In addition the different modes of delivery and motivation suggested by the project have led to the arranging of a trip to Paris for history students. The results of this will be fed into the project after it has taken place in February.

Portugal - The Portuguese partners have been using the universal suffrage material with their students and this was found to be a useful and interesting means of providing an international comparison of development.


Thursday 23 October

The session concentrated on proposals for activities in the coming year.

Various were put forward:The meeting in Seville

Immigration/Emigration

There was a suggestion that this theme be developed by looking at culture, in particular the songs and music of immigrant and emigrant communities. Italy, for example, could draw on many different materials dealing with immigration in the nineteenth century. This would allow us to work with immigrant students and their interests. However, it was pointed out that there could be difficulties with this because commercialisation has been so widespread that the real culture of the different groups has been overlaid by a common 'pop' culture. So a 'real culture' might be difficult to get at.

European constitution

There was a great debate in Italy on the nature of the European constitution and in Romania a new constitution is about to be voted on. So it was thought that this might be a useful thing to look at in a historical and comparative context. Our students are going to be first time voters and so these issues should be important to them.

It was felt by several participants that the subject of constitutions would not be stimulating for our students and therefore difficult to involve them with. There was also the difficulty that the UK does not have a constitution.

Online discussion forum

There was an extensive discussion about how to involve all the partner students actively in relating to the forum and to each other. Various ideas about the themes that could be explored were discussed. One suggestion was that the forum debate should be centred on economics because this is something that students find to be of immediate relevance to them given their socio-economic position. Another suggestion was that we put forward a number of very general questions which different groups of students studying perhaps different areas of history could still provide an input to.

A number of discussion questions were put forward for consideration over the next two days. It was decided that the online discussion could not practically take place before February 2004. One person was delegated to look at the preparatory steps needed for this to happen while others were asked to propose a final list of questions and a timetable for the online discussion.

Videoconferencing

This was not extensively discussed due to lack of time, but the aim of this is to show students that there are other people in other countries working on the same topics.


Friday 24 October

The first topic for discussion was the online forum.

Giralda, SevilleProposals for preparing the forum during November to February were put forward. The suggestion was that students provide a personal summary of interests, a photograph and so on. To achieve this email accounts would need to be set up for all project students and a test email would be sent to see if the system was working. They would then post material on the forum and seek a suitable partner to communicate with in the later online discussion. It was suggested that the forum itself be used to test the system through students registering with the forum.

Some people thought that this might not be appropriate for their students as they would not want to divulge personal information in this way and they would not think it appropriate for a project of this type.

After extensive debate it was agreed that this preparatory work, while worthwhile, would not be practical for all the partners. While it would be open to particular schools to adopt this approach and to contact other schools with a similar approach, it would not be possible for the project to adopt this idea as a whole. Therefore, the online forum would begin in February leaving individual schools to prepare for this in the way they find most suitable.

The timetable and questions for the forum in February were agreed after discussion. Answers to the questions would be posted in the local language (if preferred) and some form of online translation facilities would be used to aid comprehension. It was also agreed that there would be a Comeniad prize awarded to the best contribution in each country. (See The History Forum for details).

One of the aims of the online forum would be to provide a directly measurable outcome. The number of contacts would be verifiable from the website.

Immigration/Emigration

There was considerable discussion on this item. The main issue was whether the focus be on content or on interaction between students in the different countries working on the issue. One view was that there was no point in producing lengthy teaching materials which would sit on a website without being used. It would be important that students read and comment on any materials and this meant that the materials had to be brief and accessible.

It was also thought that it would be useful for students to participate in preparing materials on immigration/emigration. However, at this point practical difficulties related to the different languages were raised. It was suggested that online translation services could be used to help with this and these could be provided through the Stevenson website. This would not be a complete solution because these translation services were limited in what they could do. As a way around this it was proposed that students prepare very short and very simple submissions on the issue.

It was also suggested that as there were practical difficulties with administering a very interactive discussion of immigration/emigration individual partners could be left free to approach this issue in the way they thought appropriate.

One means of coordinating the activity of the partners without imposing too strict a method of work was for all to look at the topic under the following headings:

  • Who (who immigrated/emigrated) ?

  • When (a chronology of population flows in the different countries) ?

  • How (by what means of transport, under what conditions) ?

  • Why (were people driven by economic, political, social and cultural factors) ?

  • Consequence (cultural, economic, political, social) ?


In the end there was not a clear agreement on how to proceed with this topic, though all were keen that something should be done around it.

ACTIONS

  • Claudio and Donny to work on report of the Seville meeting (by mid-November 2003)

  • Template for immigration/emigration to be sent out by Donny (10 November 2004)

  • Translation of the questions for the forum to be sent to Harry to go on the forum (by 1 December 2003)

  • Involve students in the online discussion forum (February 2004)

  • Evidence of work on immigration/emigration (by May meeting)

 

NEXT MEETINGS

The Project TeamFuture meetings and dates were decided upon:

  • Edinburgh, 4 May - 9 May 2004

  • Cortegaça, 19 October - 24 October 2004

  • Final meeting would be in Rome, date to be decided

 

 
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